Help Translate: Mihri Hatun Şiir

Abu Yahya · 13 Tem 2017

Asalamu Alaykum. Bismillah al-Rahman al-Raheem.

Can you help translating this poem by Mihri Hatun into English? I want to see if there is something bad in it. (example: Bed-dua)

Çok teşekür ederim. BarakAllahu Feekum.
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Ben umardım ki seni yâr-ı vefâ-dâr olasın
Ne bileydim ki seni böyle cefâ-kâr olasın

Reh-i âşkında neler çektüğüm ey dost benim
Bilesin bir gün ola aşka giriftâr olasın

Sözüme uymadın ey asılası dil dilerim
Ser-i zülfüne anın âhiri ber-dâr olasın

Sen ki cân gül-şeninin bi gül-i nev-restesisin
Ne revâdır bu ki her hâr ü hasa yâr olasın

Beni âzâde iken aşka giriftâr itdin
Göreyim sen de benim gibi giriftâr olasın

Bed-duâ etmezem ammâ ki Huda’dan dilerim
Bir senin gibi cefâ-kâra hevâ-dâr olasın

Şimdi bir hâldeyüz kim ilenen düşmanına
Der ki Mihrî gibi sen dahi siyeh-kâr olasın

User789 · 13 Tem 2017

since It has so many arabic words I cant understand the whole passage but in the "beddua" part he/she is saying that "I dont do beddua" so I guess its fine

Abu Yahya · 13 Tem 2017

User789' Alıntı:
since It has so many arabic words I cant understand the whole passage but in the "beddua" part he/she is saying that "I dont do beddua" so I guess its fine

Farsi/persian also a little arabic I think.

She says I don't do curse, but in next line she curses him anyways, right?

Problem is I can't recite this I think because hadith says if you make a curse (beddua) it goes back to you if you curse the wrong person. Right?

User789 · 13 Tem 2017

Abu Yahya' Alıntı:
Farsi/persian not arabic I think.

She says I don't do curse, but in next line she curses him anyways, right?

haha just realised that yeah thats right but I dont know if its halal to get involved with this type of stuff I prefer staying out

and if you need any other help with Turkish just reach me out bro I would be happy to help

Abu Yahya · 13 Tem 2017

User789' Alıntı:
haha just realised that yeah thats right but I dont know if its halal to get involved with this type of stuff I prefer staying out

and if you need any other help with Turkish just reach me out bro I would be happy to help

Kardeş if you become good at romantic poetry maybe your wife will become more happy, right? In sha Allah there is reward in this.

"her hâr ü hasa yâr olasın" SubhanAllah! This sounds sweet.

User789 · 13 Tem 2017

Abu Yahya' Alıntı:
Kardeş if you become good at romantic poetry maybe your wife will become more happy, right? In sha Allah there is reward in this.

"her hâr ü hasa yâr olasın" SubhanAllah! This sounds sweet.

yes yes for sure kardeş I wasnt talking about poetry itself but about the ones which may have haram or shirk in them

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Akhi you choosing hard poems always, this is old Turkish, mixed with arabic and persian

I was hope you should became a loyal beloved
I couldn't know you will become long-suffering

O my friend, What tormented to me
You will understand it when you fall in love

You didn't listen me, O heart the what should be hanged
I hope you will become hanged after scattering

You are a rose who unfolded in heart
Becoming beloved for all thorns and Garbages is appropriate?

I was free and you taked me prisoner to love
I wan't see you when you falling in love

I don't curse actually but I hope from god
I wan't see you when you falling in love with a torturer

Now we are in a such a state who got angry at his enemy
Saying, get a bad fortune like Mihrî (this is shirk, subhanAllah)

We seek refuge in Allah from the kalimat al shirk, la hawla wa la quwata illa billah.

Alketa · 13 Tem 2017

Ebu Selman et-Turkî' Alıntı:
Akhi you choosing hard poems always, this is old Turkish, mixed with arabic and persien

I was hope you should became a loyal beloved
I couldn't know you will become long-suffering

O my friend, What tormented to me
You will understand it when you fall in love

You didn't listen me, O heart the what should be hanged
I hope you will become hanged after scattering

You are a rose who unfolded in heart
Becoming beloved for all thorns and Garbages is appropriate?

I was free and you taked me prisoner to love
I wan't see you when you falling in love

I don't curse actually but I hope from god
I wan't see you when you falling in love with a torturer

Now we are in a such a state who got angry at his enemy
Saying, get a bad fortune like Mihrî (this is shirk, subhanAllah)

We seek refuge in Allah from the kalimat al shirk, la hawla wa la quwata illa billah.

Gazeli ağlatmissin selman kardesim =)))

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Alketa' Alıntı:
Gazeli ağlatmissin selman kardesim =)))

İyi anlamda mı kötü anlamda mı

Alketa · 13 Tem 2017

Ebu Selman et-Turkî' Alıntı:
İyi anlamda mı kötü anlamda mı

Yani duygu uçmuş yazi kalmış =))

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Alketa' Alıntı:
Yani duygu uçmuş yazi kalmış =))

Şöyle araya biraz

:ssrtcbya::ytrya::krktm: falan mı koysaydım acaba, daha duygulu olurdu

Alketa · 13 Tem 2017

Ebu Selman et-Turkî' Alıntı:
Şöyle araya biraz :ssrtcbya::ytrya::krktm: falan mı koysaydım acaba, daha duygulu olurdu

Namumkun=)
O degil de bunlari günümüz turkcesine çevirmek zaten biraz teferruatli
Bazi donemler farscayi oyle cok kullanmislar ki simdiki farsca sozluklerde bile yok

Ama cabani takdir ediyorum
Sana puanim 10
( insallah eşine okumaz bunu) =)

Abu Yahya · 13 Tem 2017

BarakAllahu Feek brother I love you Feesabillillah.

Why almost every Turkish poem that sounds a little sweet to the tongue, contains shirk and bad meaning? La hawla wa la quwata illa billah. It's good I asked you, so I don't recite this garbage. Alhamdulillah.

I will look after something else in sha Allah.

By the way zülf is hanging by the curl of the hair, right? SubhanAllah.

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Abu Yahya' Alıntı:
BarakAllahu Feek brother I love you Feesabillillah.

Why almost every Turkish poem that sounds a little sweet to the tongue, contains shirk and bad meaning? La hawla wa la quwata illa billah. It's good I asked you, so I don't recite this garbage. Alhamdulillah.

I will look after something else in sha Allah.

By the way zülf is hanging by the curl of the hair, right? SubhanAllah.

All Turkish (rather Ottoman Turkish) poems not kalimat al kufr and shirk, but you coinciding

Old Turkish poets be affected from rafidi persians, that's why there are kalimat al kufr in some poems.
I can help you in this regard, just write. I will tell it is halal or haram and i'll translate to english inshaAllah.

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Alketa' Alıntı:
Namumkun=)
O degil de bunlari günümüz turkcesine çevirmek zaten biraz teferruatli
Bazi donemler farscayi oyle cok kullanmislar ki simdiki farsca sozluklerde bile yok

Ama cabani takdir ediyorum
Sana puanim 10
( insallah eşine okumaz bunu) =)

Eşine okumayacakmış ohhh

Alketa · 13 Tem 2017

Ebu Selman et-Turkî' Alıntı:
Eşine okumayacakmış ohhh

Cok şükür ;D

Ebu Selman et-Turkî · 13 Tem 2017

Abu Yahya' Alıntı:
BarakAllahu Feek brother I love you Feesabillillah.

Why almost every Turkish poem that sounds a little sweet to the tongue, contains shirk and bad meaning? La hawla wa la quwata illa billah. It's good I asked you, so I don't recite this garbage. Alhamdulillah.

I will look after something else in sha Allah.

By the way zülf is hanging by the curl of the hair, right? SubhanAllah.

And, in Ottoman State Poems of Kufr and Shirk mostly prohibited but after the secularist revolutions they are turned out.

Ömer2 · 13 Tem 2017

Nörüyonuz :kötü::kahve:

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Help Translate: Mihri Hatun Şiir

Abu Yahya

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